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05/05/2021 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY

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                SB 11-COMMUNITY PROPERTY TRUSTS                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:37:02 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND announced the consideration  of SENATE BILL NO. 11,                                                               
"An Act relating to community  property and to community property                                                               
trusts; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:37:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  TOM BEGICH,  Alaska State  Legislature, Juneau,  Alaska,                                                               
sponsor of SB  11, stated that the bill reintroduces  a bill from                                                               
a  prior legislature.  SB 11  would clarify  the meaning  of what                                                               
income  and appreciation  was intended  by a  bill introduced  in                                                               
1997 by then-Representative Joe Ryan.  He advised members that he                                                               
had   reviewed    the   transcripts   from    the   legislature's                                                               
deliberations  on  Mr.  Ryan's  bill.   When  one  partner  in  a                                                               
relationship died, the  basis for the value of the  asset was the                                                               
purchase price  and any appreciation  of the estate to  ensure it                                                               
had   no  tax   liability.   He  briefly   reviewed  what   then-                                                               
Representative  Ryan  wanted  to  address,  which  was  to  carry                                                               
forward  the value  of  the  trust and  any  appreciation when  a                                                               
couple voluntarily  forms a community property  trust. Because it                                                               
was  not  specifically clear  in  the  language, a  recent  court                                                               
hearing  raised ambiguity  related  to estates.  Some of  today's                                                               
invited testifiers brought this matter to his attention.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:39:26 PM                                                                                                                    
BRIX HAHN,  Staff, Senator Tom Begich,  Alaska State Legislature,                                                               
Juneau,  Alaska,  presented  a sponsor  statement  and  sectional                                                               
analysis on behalf of the sponsor. She read:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska  is  a  state  with  favorable  trust  laws  and                                                                    
     favorable laws for  property ownership between spouses.                                                                    
     Alaska   allows  for   "opt   in"  community   property                                                                    
     ownership between  married spouses.  Community property                                                                    
     ownership  can  provide  tremendous tax  advantages  to                                                                    
     spouses. In Alaska, residents  can enter into community                                                                    
     property  agreements,  and residents  and  nonresidents                                                                    
     can enter  into Alaska community property  trusts. This                                                                    
     benefits  the  individuals entering  these  agreements,                                                                    
     the  trust industry  of Alaska,  increases deposits  in                                                                    
     Alaska banks  and through the revenue  generated by the                                                                    
     formation of a new trust, the state.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Community  property  is  simply  a  way  to  own  joint                                                                    
     property. A  common way to  enter a  community property                                                                    
     agreement  is in  conjunction with  one's spouse.  Each                                                                    
     party must elect into this  agreement and the agreement                                                                    
     provides,   most   commonly,    equal   ownership   and                                                                    
     management of specific property.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Currently,  community property  has  a significant  tax                                                                    
     advantage. When  a spouse  dies, community  property is                                                                    
     placed into a category  that allows tax advantages when                                                                    
     that  property is  sold. To  realize these  advantages,                                                                    
     appreciation  and  income   must  be  characterized  as                                                                    
     community property.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:40:42 PM                                                                                                                    
     The default  rule has generally been  that appreciation                                                                    
     and income on community  property will be characterized                                                                    
     as  community property,  unless  otherwise declared  in                                                                    
     the  community  property  trust. Trust  attorneys  have                                                                    
     attested to  this interpretation, however  recent court                                                                    
     rulings  have  created  an ambiguous  understanding  of                                                                    
     this  general criterion.  This legislation,  consistent                                                                    
     with  industry  understandings   of  trusts,  seeks  to                                                                    
     clearly   define   community  property   as   including                                                                    
     appreciation and income on community property.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     SB 11  establishes a  clear definition  of appreciation                                                                    
     and income  as community  property, as intended  by The                                                                    
     Community  Property Trust  Act.  This bill  also has  a                                                                    
     retroactive effective date of May 23, 1998.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:41:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. HAHN provided the sectional analysis for SB 11. She read                                                                    
[Original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1.  Clarifies  AS 34.77.030(h),  by  affirming                                                                    
     legal  intent  to  ensure appreciation  and  income  in                                                                    
     community  property   trusts  are  in   fact  community                                                                    
     property  unless expressly  otherwise  stated in  legal                                                                    
     trust documents.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section   2.   Provides   that   AS   34.77.030(h)   is                                                                    
     retroactive  to  community  property  trust  agreements                                                                    
     entered into after May 23,  1998 and defines "community                                                                    
     property trust" consistent with statute.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3.  Adds as a  new uncodified law of  the State                                                                    
     of Alaska, a savings clause  and asserts that Sec. 2 of                                                                    
     this act  does not impact court  actions or proceedings                                                                    
     that began  before the effective  date, or  a community                                                                    
     property rights accrued before the effective date.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4.  Adds as a  new uncodified law of  the State                                                                    
     of Alaska retroactivity to AS 34.77.030(h).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section  5. Establishes  retroactivity through  May 23,                                                                    
     1998.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:42:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES asked why the bill had a specific                                                                                
retroactive date of May 23, 1998.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH  answered that this  is the effective date  of the                                                               
Community  Trust  Act.  It  will  establish  continuity  but  the                                                               
savings clause ensures  that it does not affect  any legal action                                                               
before the state  today. Essentially, it will  establish that the                                                               
understanding and  intent extended by  then-Representative Ryan's                                                               
comments during committee  hearings was the bill's  intent and of                                                               
the Community Trust Act established at the time.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES  asked whether any  appreciation and  income would                                                               
be considered community property prior to that date.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH  deferred to  Mr. Blattmachr.  He stated  that the                                                               
Community  Trust Act  passed  the  legislature and  prospectively                                                               
created that relationship.  Before 1998, the law  did not provide                                                               
for it.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:44:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND asked if any  dispute had occurred since 1998, such                                                               
that the bill would overturn the decision.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BEGICH  responded that  the  bill  included the  savings                                                               
clause to  clarify that the intent  is not to overturn  any legal                                                               
decisions already  made. Instead,  the intent  is to  enforce the                                                               
will  retroactively.  He  introduced  the  bill  to  correct  the                                                               
interpretation but not change any specific court outcome.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:45:16 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES disclosed  that she  had community  property with                                                               
her husband prior to 1998. She  asked whether there was any legal                                                               
way  to apply  SB 11  to community  property acquired  before May                                                               
1998.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND turned to invited testifiers.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:46:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MATTHEW  BLATTMACHR,   Attorney;  President  &   Chief  Executive                                                               
Officer, Peak Trust Company, Anchorage,  Alaska, spoke in support                                                               
for  SB 11.  He  stated  that many  Alaskan  residents had  taken                                                               
advantage  of this  law since  it passed  in 1998.  He related  a                                                               
scenario  in which  a couple  bought  an asset  together to  fund                                                               
their  grandchildren's   education  through   Alaska's  community                                                               
property and  options. The  surviving spouse  sold the  asset and                                                               
funded their grandkids' college  education. He characterized this                                                               
as  a powerful  law. In  response to  the question,  if it  would                                                               
overturn any disputes, he referred to  a case in Alaska court. He                                                               
explained that  the case in  question used semantics but  did not                                                               
consider the law's  intent, which was to follow the  rules of the                                                               
federal property  law. The savings clause  was specifically added                                                               
to  protect those  parties and  ensure  that this  bill will  not                                                               
overturn their case.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLATTMACHR, in response to  Senator Hughes' earlier question,                                                               
clarified that prior  to the passage of the 1998  law, Alaska did                                                               
not  have  the  option  of  community  property.  It  was  solely                                                               
separate property,  and it  became optional  with the  passage of                                                               
the Community Property Act.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:48:52 Pm                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL asked what right  might have accrued before May 23,                                                               
1998,  that the  bill protects  since it  only affects  community                                                               
property.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLATTMACHR answered  that he  was not  sure any  right could                                                               
have accrued prior  to the passage of the  Community Property Act                                                               
and any property being converted  to community property. The only                                                               
protection would  be any right  that has accrued since  1998 that                                                               
was converted during that time.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:49:56 PM                                                                                                                    
WILLIAM PEARSON, Attorney, Foley  and Pearson, Anchorage, Alaska,                                                               
said he is  a shareholder with Foley and Pearson.  He stated that                                                               
the firm believes that SB 11  is a simple but effective statutory                                                               
fix.  It  would  create  the  presumption  that  the  income  and                                                               
appreciation  of an  asset transferred  to  a community  property                                                               
trust  is community  property. As  Mr. Blattmachr  testified, the                                                               
bill would clarify that the  income and appreciation is community                                                               
property. It  will provide the  double benefit of the  step-up in                                                               
basis under the federal tax regime,  which is the purpose of this                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:50:54 PM                                                                                                                    
ABIGAIL O'CONNOR, Attorney, O'Connor  Law Office, LLC, Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska,  stated that  she  is an  estate  planning attorney.  She                                                               
stated her  support for  SB 11. She  opined that  multiple trusts                                                               
would be adversely affected without  this bill because the income                                                               
and appreciation would not be  treated as community property. She                                                               
said she was  aware of at least one trust  that would be affected                                                               
by this issue. This bill will provide an automatic fix.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:52:05 PM                                                                                                                    
DAVE SHAFTEL,  Attorney, Shaftel Delman &  Associates, Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska, stated that he practices in  the trust and estate area of                                                               
law. He said he  is one of a group of  attorneys that have worked                                                               
with  the  legislature  since  the   enactment  of  the  enabling                                                               
legislation to improve the trust  and estate laws. This bill will                                                               
correct a  trap for the unwary,  he said. He stated  a false rule                                                               
exists. The person  drafting a trust must  affirmatively state in                                                               
the  trust  that  community property  includes  appreciation  and                                                               
income to  receive federal tax benefits.  Absent that affirmative                                                               
statement in  the trust, the  default rule will apply,  such that                                                               
the  appreciation and  income will  not  be considered  community                                                               
property. Then  the estate would  lose the entire tax  benefit of                                                               
community  property. SB  11 would  reverse the  default rule.  It                                                               
provides  that the  default  rule will  be  that appreciation  in                                                               
income  will  automatically   become  community  property  unless                                                               
otherwise stated.  He acknowledged that  a few people  might wish                                                               
to  state  otherwise. However,  almost  all  of his  clients  are                                                               
Alaskan residents  or nonresidents  who will  want to  opt-in and                                                               
use this tax advantage for  community property. He explained that                                                               
if  a  married couple  owns  property  in  tenants in  common  or                                                               
tenants  by the  entirety,  not by  community  property when  the                                                               
first spouse dies,  only that spouse's one-half  of the community                                                               
property will receive an adjustment of  basis up to a fair market                                                               
value. When that deceased spouse's  half is sold, there would not                                                               
be any  capital gains tax,  but when the surviving  spouse's half                                                               
is  sold,  there will  be  a  capital  gains  tax equal  to  that                                                               
appreciation and  income. Community property law  takes advantage                                                               
of a tax rule  that dates back to the 1940s. Alaska  is one of 13                                                               
states  with community  property  laws.  Under those  provisions,                                                               
when  the first  spouse dies  both  halves get  an adjustment  of                                                               
basis up  to fair market  value. The  adjustment of basis  is the                                                               
appreciation and  income under discussion. In  community property                                                               
states,  if  one  spouse  dies,   both  halves  will  receive  an                                                               
adjustment  of  basis up  to  fair  market value.  The  surviving                                                               
spouse can  sell the  property and  not be  subject to  a capital                                                               
gains tax. Thus, community property  has a significant advantage,                                                               
so Alaska adopted it in 1998. He stated support for the bill.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:57:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   HOLLAND  opened   public  testimony   and,  after   first                                                               
determining no one wished to  testify, closed public testimony on                                                               
SB 11.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
[SB 11 was held in committee.]